BMW M5 Blinder/V1 stealth mirror install

[Lucozade17]

These are pictures from a member over on an M5 board. He has a V1 display installed into the rear view mirror but I don't know where the actual V1 unit itself is. There is also a blinder setup with two sensors in the front and two in the rear. Look very closely you can notice them in the front air dam and under the rear bumper.

This is not my M5!

[silverstreak98]

Huh I can't open the attached images to make them bigger?

[RadarReviews_Net]

Me either, they look very great though, very stealth install :}

[TSi+WRX]

Can't open up the images any larger here, either.

Regardless, I hope this particular owner doesn't expect any rear protection from those heads......

[ProSpeeder]

that's a tight install. I love the RV V1 interfaces. I first saw one of those on a 997. Awesome!

[The STIG]

I never understood the mentality of the V1 stealth mirror concept. People are still goin to see the alerts just as if the V1 was mounted on the windshield, not very stealthy in my book. Not the greatest choice in laser jammers though. Nice set up but not the best choice's. Just proves money doesnt mean your smart.

[Lucozade17]

There seems to a problem with the pictures or image shack. I hosted them and copied a direct link but instead links me to image shacks home. Please bear with me I am working on this!

[Lucozade17]

Originally Posted by The STIG

I never understood the mentality of the V1 stealth mirror concept. People are still goin to see the alerts just as if the V1 was mounted on the windshield, not very stealthy in my book. Not the greatest choice in laser jammers though. Nice set up but not the best choice's. Just proves money doesnt mean your smart.

Because they are very very "cool" and there are only so many people that have done them. Tailgater's aren't looking for lights on rear view mirrors either, they're looking for a detector on a windshield .

I think its a great choice of a jammer

YouTube - Blinder Xtreme M45

And your right, money doesn't mean someone is smart but most people would rather avoid such comments.

[The STIG]

The new Blinder Xtreme M25/45 is not a great choice in a laser jammer, well if you want PT's over 1,000 feet with ease, but with proper marketing anything can be covered up..like the recieving lens...Outrun....

[TSi+WRX]

Lucozade17 -

Like the others here have said, Blinder's new offerings - what I've termed their "-5 suffix models" - the M25/35/45, unfortunately, have not lived up to their marketing claims.

Radar detector jammer forum: View topic - Lets Come together and help one another!

You will find that almost all - if not outright the entire list - of more experienced enthusiasts and hobbyists in our community to share this same view.

It's not so much (although yes, this has been voiced as a complaint - more on this, later) that the Blinder M25/35/45 doesn't perform on the same level as the top-flight diode-based jammers, instead, the big concern (and big "beef") is the fact that through many independent hobbyist (well known names, i.e. RacerX) tests, it just doesn't seem that the M25/35/45 even comes close to the level of performance of the outgoing, now defunct, M20/30/40 ("-0 suffix") units.

This is, admittedly, a big problem. If you trace my cited thread above, you'll see this to be the case.

Even if the new "-5 suffix" Blinder's performance were to come up-to-par with the defunct "-0 suffix" units, it's still a known fact that for the vast majority of applications, a two-head laser-diode based system will provide jamming effectiveness which can be achieved only with either a 3-head (average-sized passenger vehicle) or 4-head (larger vehicle, or vehicle with more difficult hardpoints) Blinder (or similar LED-based system), on which many would also advise the addition of further layers of passive protection (i.e. VEIL).

Finally, even then, this only addresses the frontal aspect of the vehicle. Unfortunately, LED-based jammers have been shown to be a complete failure at being able to sufficiently protect the rear aspect of even smaller passenger vehicles, where it is now recognized that we must dedicate at least two heads of even today's top-flight laser-diode based jammers to achieve consistent protection.

In all honestly, Lucozade17 , I would like to see this person's setup in more photographic detail not to bash him/her for anything, but rather, to see if there's any obvious "holes" left in their setup which can be addressed.

Certainly, they've handicapped themselves quite a bit with the choice of jammer, but I think it's still capable of being rescued, particularly if they're willing to ditch the false-hope of achieving any rear protection at all (i.e. relocate the rear heads up-front, to maximize best-odds for forward protection), recognize that they may need some form of additional passive protective measures to be undertaken, and understand that they are still at high-risk for closer-range PTs, particularly when faced with unfavorable enforcement hardware.


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With regard to the video that you cited, Lucozade17 , please be aware that it is a Blinder promotional video, as well as the fact that it is with a Kustom Prolaser III unit.

The latter is important because the PL III is recognized in our community as being among the "easiest to jam" of all current police LIDAR. You can even see through the latest GOL results that this bears out.

And while many would severely discount the video due to its source, I don't take much personal issue with that - as long as the conflict-of-interest is clearly noted. You will see that, in the RD.net thread which I cited above, the Blinder representative there, stegall1000, cited a set of data derived from a series of YouTube videos which were made by a known AU-market countermeasures retailer that sells Blinder, AntiLaser, as well as the Laser Interceptor. stegall1000 presents data which he at-first deemed to be in-favor of the new-generation "-5 suffix" units, but you will see that later-on, in my more detailed examination of the videos to which he referred, that indeed, the performance (or lack thereof) concerns for the M25/35/45 does bear-out to be true.