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Old 11-18-2007, 07:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here's some photos I took while in Germany this year.

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Old 11-18-2007, 07:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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very neat... did you live in Germany or just visiting?
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very neat... did you live in Germany or just visiting?

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That the eso µP 80, it works by using three laser beams across the road as "barriers" that when you cross them it calculates the time it takes for you to cross them and hence calculates your speed. That "trident" is the part that emits the three beams, and the other one on the other side the three sensors. Thats why its undetectacle, its like the italian Autovelox, but a bit less sophisticated.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Eso-80 can be jammed.You cannot prevent the machine to take the measurment,but you can jam the radio connection between photo module and measuring device.In Germany people use PMR-radios(Alan-G7 are the easiest to modify) and they solder the bridge in the circuit in order to transmit on 434,7MHz(70cm-band)with greater power(around 1W).For sucessfull jamming you need around 0,5W transmitted power("snow").So,ESO-80 wil measure your speed,but the photo isn't taken.
Another(passive) way to detect it,is with scanner.That's not very realible,because the ESO-80 must be triggered in your scanning range in order to detect it.
There are 4 different ESO versions and only ESO80 uses radio connection.Other models use cable and those models are un-detectable.

Older Autovelox 104 also have radio connection and can be easily jammed.All you need to do is transmit around 1W of "snow"(white noise) on 26.6MHz. New Autovelox 105se and VeloMatic do not have radio connection and therefore cannot be jammed/detected.
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Eso-80 can be jammed.You cannot prevent the machine to take the measurment,but you can jam the radio connection between photo module and measuring device.In Germany people use PMR-radios(Alan-G7 are the easiest to modify) and they solder the bridge in the circuit in order to transmit on 434,7MHz(70cm-band)with greater power(around 1W).For sucessfull jamming you need around 0,5W transmitted power("snow").So,ESO-80 wil measure your speed,but the photo isn't taken.
Another(passive) way to detect it,is with scanner.That's not very realible,because the ESO-80 must be triggered in your scanning range in order to detect it.
There are 4 different ESO versions and only ESO80 uses radio connection.Other models use cable and those models are un-detectable.

Older Autovelox 104 also have radio connection and can be easily jammed.All you need to do is transmit around 1W of "snow"(white noise) on 26.6MHz. New Autovelox 105se and VeloMatic do not have radio connection and therefore cannot be jammed/detected.

Interesting, then its the same flaw that the previous Autovelox 104 had. It comunicated between the measuring device and the CPU via radio, so it was detected with a device that detected that frecuency. Now the current Autovelox, the 105SE, comunicates via cable in order to avoid this, so its now 100% undetectable.
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Interesting, then its the same flaw that the previous Autovelox 104 had. It comunicated between the measuring device and the CPU via radio, so it was detected with a device that detected that frecuency. Now the current Autovelox, the 105SE, comunicates via cable in order to avoid this, so its now 100% undetectable.
That is correct.

BTW,if I may...I saw your post about V1 freq. cover on TodoRadares and that info is not correct anymore,
because VR expanded Ka-band sweep in EURO-mode.
V1 before rev.3.851 in EURO-mode,covers from 34.26 to 34.46GHz
V1 after(July2006) rev.3.851 in EURO-mode,covers from 33.9 to 34.65GHz
Sorry,for bringing this here,I hope you don't mind.I tought you might want to know this.
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That is correct.

BTW,if I may...I saw your post about V1 freq. cover on TodoRadares and that info is not correct anymore,
because VR expanded Ka-band sweep in EURO-mode.
V1 before rev.3.851 in EURO-mode,covers from 34.26 to 34.46GHz
V1 after(July2006) rev.3.851 in EURO-mode,covers from 33.9 to 34.65GHz
Sorry,for bringing this here,I hope you don't mind.I tought you might want to know this.
Don't mind at all, on the contrary. Thanks for the correction.
I had asked Mike V. about this back in 2005 and didn't know it was later changed, this is good for the V1 since some Multanovas can get out of calibration and fall out of the listening range of the 34,2GHz.
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where is the pics gone??
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