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Old 10-30-2007, 01:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What is the best way to get out of a speeding ticket? what do you do when pulled over to help the officer feel safe?
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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STAY IN THE VEHICLE - DONT GET OUT
Have both hands on the wheel
Announce any movement and keep one hand on the wheel when going for registration/license if possible

at night, turn on dome light, keep both hands on wheel

Announce first thing if there are any weapons in the vehicle (knife, gun) and their location(s) - loaded/unloaded/cased - pass that info on to the LEO

Follow any direction try to remain calm - dont give them an excuse

That's about it....

I was pulled over coming back mid evening from deer hunting, I informed the trooper I had weapons (unloaded) in the vehicle and their locations (I travel frequently with weapons), kept my dome light on, I had pulled over off the road as far as I could and simply answered him/followed direction until the end of our encounter. No issues.



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Old 11-12-2007, 06:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Were you pulled over for Speeding?

Most Officers will still give you a ticket depending on how fast you were going and what road you were on. I got 2 tickets at one time for going 55 over 40 and passing in no passing zone (Blank Road with no stripes for a mile) and Officers gave me ticket anyway. If there was stripes there like a nomal road than I understand that, I deserved to get the Ticket that way and the 55 over 40 on a Country Road. And another thing is my age probably because I am 19 and most people judge by that how you drive as teen being reckless. This is my opinion, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Generally unmarked roads are considered in most jurisdictions to be assumed as no-passing. I personally never pass unless the road is marked as being a legal passing zone (Dashed lines), or if there is a vehicle that is not able to move very fast (A horse carriage... common in Pennsylvania, or a Bicycle.) Also, you are allowed to pass pedrestrians, but passing a car moving at normal speed on an unmarked road, or a double yellow, or a road marked "No Passing Zone" is a definate no.


Anyways, as far as getting out of a speeding ticket, the first thing is to of course, not pay it and indicate that you wish to fight it in court. Paying it is considered an admission of guilt.

The next thing you have to do is prepare yourself for a hell of a fight. Although there are a number of times that an officer won't show up, or does and isn't prepared, you do have to take into account that some actually do show up and are prepared. Generally assume that you will have to fight tooth nail and claw to win. The best advice is to go and look for discrepancies in the ticket. Also, you need to take pictures of where you were caught at, and also take pictures in the prospective of the officer's location. Take notice of signs, markings...etc. Also, don't talk to anyone from the DA' or Prosecutor or Police Department before the trial. You don't want them to know how prepared you are.

When you get there, start going over the evidence, and cross examine the officer and try to get him into a discrepancy on his story. Ask your questions like a lawyer, giving the officer only the ability to answer either "Yes" or "No". Do not let him have a question that requires a longer response. "Is it true that the radar unit of the car was possibly blocked by an object?" is a good type of question. It only gives him the ability to answer it yes/no. "How many objects were possibly blocking the radar unit." is an example of a poorly worded question. It gives him the ability to give a longer answer, and possibly try to weasel his way around anything that could possibly contradict him.

Also, read up on your state's statutes. Most states require the unit to be calibrated every so often, as well has requires the officer to be certified, and recertified within certain time frames, and the officer must be able to show proof of this in court. Generally officers rarely bring the records of their guns and certification with them, since many people either come unprepared to fight, or just hope that they can end up getting the citation reduced to a "fine and no points" from the judge as part of a plea-bargain.

By the way, in some states, the judge will try to issue a continuance if an officer fails to show. If he tries to do so, ask for a dismissal on the basis of lack of prosecution and state that you do not waive your right to a speedy trial. It irks the hell out of me how some states can let an officer skip and have no penalty, while you skipping would equal an instantaneous issue of an arrest warrant with your name on it.

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Dang! Nighthawk must of stayed at a Holiday Inn recently!!! or is a "pocket legal adviser!!" ha haha ha ha ha... (jus foolin!)

Makes good sense!
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The typical professional response to this would be, place both hands firmly on the steering wheel to let the Leo know you intend no bodily harm. If he see's this he sees you have no weapon which makes him/her feel more at ease at the very begining of said traffic stop.

Secondly remember to be on your toes. With any questions asked, you have 3-5 sec to give your response.


Thirdly stay cool, calm, & collective, and never forget the biggest part, "NEVER ADMIT GUILT."

EX #1:


Any idea how fast your going today?

Another famous one you ask..?


EX #2:

Any idea why i pulled you over today?

Don't answer this question ever. If you do in any way you admit guilt. It's a setup question! Let him answer his own questions, he is the one that pulled you over let him inform you. Don't give information this is the biggest advice if you admit guilt at all you fail, and you "WILL" receive a citition.


Others are also used. Be forewarned. There are too many to list. This was merely some examples.


Now, if you miss these helpfull things and make the grave error, and end up in court. Always remember to enforce your RIGHT TO DISCOVERY, get the info they are opting to use against you in court, you can actually see what they are going to say, when, what they plan to use as witnesses against you etc. Also you can ever request a copy of the back of your cition.

Also Request info of calibration of the insterment used, also certifcations from the Leo that issued the citition, also the logs of equipment checks, and to top off I'd even want to know the last time that gun had been tuned/calibrated.

If it's lidar/laser was the gun even certifed? Most aren't and case law lately has shown that these trials are being droped on this basis.

Also i'd want to make sure that Leo's instructor was properly certified to be a legally authorized instructor. Who knows, maybe joe shmo just made up that certificate on his lap top in spare time? IN small towns such as mine this wouldn't surprise me knowing how corrupt my own local Law enforcement is. I caught them using a gun that was having FAN error occur, they told me, quote on quote, "WE KNOW ALL ABOUT IT." I thought, "Well why haven't you corrected this?!" I immediately corrected the officer in the stop by saying, "officer ahh don't you think ahh thats a problem?"


This is the longest post I think i've had to date but the info is deeply usefull.




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A few examples of the answers to give to the loaded questions are:


For the infamous "Do you have any idea how fast you were going?" question:

"Officer, can you tell me how fast you clocked me going?"

You don't admit guilt, you're just asking how fast he clocked you at. You never stated your speed, but you also didn't act like you didn't know the answer to his question. If you said something like "I don't know" or something of that sort, you admit that you were not paying attention to your speed.

For the "Do you know why I pulled you over?" question, its pretty simple:

"I'm not quite sure why you stopped me today sir. What seems to be the problem?"

Again, you're not admitting to anything. And you're asking the officer the reason he pulled you over. The officer cannot use this against you since TBH, he could've pulled you over for just about anything: Speeding, registration, tail-lights...etc.
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Also, try not to act nervous as this might bring some "suspicion" to the officers mind. Make sure when asked a question, you have an answer within 3-5 seconds and don't say uhh. These things make the officer suspicious and you don't want this.
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Well... most people get nervous when pulled over... or as what happend a few times to me, shivering from it being cold out.

Just don't make quick movements and you should be alright.
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A few examples of the answers to give to the loaded questions are:


For the infamous "Do you have any idea how fast you were going?" question:

"Officer, can you tell me how fast you clocked me going?"

You don't admit guilt, you're just asking how fast he clocked you at. You never stated your speed, but you also didn't act like you didn't know the answer to his question. If you said something like "I don't know" or something of that sort, you admit that you were not paying attention to your speed.

For the "Do you know why I pulled you over?" question, its pretty simple:

"I'm not quite sure why you stopped me today sir. What seems to be the problem?"

Again, you're not admitting to anything. And you're asking the officer the reason he pulled you over. The officer cannot use this against you since TBH, he could've pulled you over for just about anything: Speeding, registration, tail-lights...etc.
Exactly. Do you know why I stopped you? To this question I'll respond, "Missing tag" or "Dead tailights" I used to be able to use "no front plate" but not anymore.

Do you know how fast you were going?
You can't beat "Can you tell me what speed you clocked me" Best answer.

More and more often however, when I'm pulled the LEO doesn't say anything. They just ask for my DL and PFR, then come back with the citation.

When I got pulled for 30 over he had me sit in the passenger side of his patrol car which I thought was a bit strange. But he wrote me for 24 over.
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