Oh, and BTW, this just occurred to me.....
From LaserJammerTests' Blogs - the following entry.
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I'll quote:
Quote:
Laser Pro Park has also had several revisions to their laser jammer. One of the big dissapointments with Laser ProPark was it's inability to jam the LTI 100LR 100PPS lidar gun. They were selling these jammers claiming all the guns could be jammed. It wasn't until someone tested the LPP against the 100pps gun that we found out LPP was scamming us. Laser Pro Park then took forever to get the fix out. After they did fix the problem they only contacted people who were pissed about it on the forum. Laser Pro Park did NOT contact all their customers who thought they were 100% protected. LPP didn't issue any sort of recall. They basically screwed over all their customers who aren't 'trolls' of laser jammer/radar detector forums.
-- Chris
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OK, now look at this past thread on the Laser Pro Park Support Forums:
http://www.kmph.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=84
Huh, that's interesting, isn't it?
On LJT, the Blog entry says "...someone tested the LPP against the 100pps gun that we found out LPP was scamming us."
That's verbatim.
And who was the that "someone?"
You claim to have a good memory of your many years in this hobby. Heck, you were even on that very same Laser Pro Park Forum thread, as your old
Ford_Focus_05 alias ( ref:
http://www.kmph.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=250 ).
And for those of you who need/require the history, at that time,
Audi Quattro was known on the LPP Support Forums as
LPP ver. Ghost Recon. [
Want proof of this? Just look at any of his posts where the word "Audi" was mentioned, he'll go into detail about his beloved Audi. ]
I don't think that it's deniable that the "someone" named was the
GOL, nor that the test that was referred to was this one:
Guys of LIDAR - Laser Jammer Test - March 2007
Isn't it funny, how, at the time that this all happened,
The Goons, who were then active LPP supporters, all said that it wouldn't matter, that the 100 PPS Ultralyte variant was so rare in the US as to be nonexistent.... and furthermore accused of the person who initiated the thread itself as having "an agenda" - someone who, no less, was a part of a group-buy that took delivery of no less than 15 (fifteen) total units of the LPP.
That was, actually, prior to the
GOL test.
Afterwards:
http://www.kmph.ca/forum/viewtopic.p...st=0&sk=t&sd=a http://www.kmph.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=223 http://www.kmph.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=139 http://www.kmph.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=210
Notice how
Audi (aka
Ghost Recon) downplays the then-clear "fault" of the LPP given to the North-American market....
But this, of course, was proven wrong by community input, on a thread addressing just this issue (the prevalence of 100 PPS Ultralyte units in the US, which may still be in-use) on RD.net.
All of which was seminal in forcing LPP/KMPH to take remedial action in sending "100 PPS UL enabled" units our way (where previously, we in North America were sold the version of the LPP which was "safetied" against the Jenoptik devices a variant which we shared with the EU market due to concerns for the LaserPatrol in that region).
So now, after switching allegiances, they go, suddenly, from framing everything in-favor of the LPP - everything from belittling the significance/penetrance of the 100 PPS UL in the North-America (and most specifically, the US) to blaming the
GOL and others who even questioned the LPP (pre-revision) performance as having some sort of "agenda" - to literally attacking everything that they at first defended, after going over to the LaserStar camp.
Not whitewashing the situation at all, right,
Subie?
No way that I should doubt either
The Goons' words, or LJT, right?
And they go from praising LPP's response to the North-American concern, as seen in those very threads - which took a very reasonable, IMHO, approx. one and a half months, for the revised, 100 PPS UL enabled units to come from their UK manufacture to reach the first batch of stateside hobbyists who sought the upgrade [
and here, note that it's been nearly one and a half months since the TruSpeed threat, now, and while LPP certainly has not yet posed a response to this threat, neither has LaserStar yet demonstrated their ability to respond, either - in my eyes, to be fair to all parties involved, shouldn't LJT also now criticize LaserStar in "taking forever" to properly respond to this new and very real threat, here in the US? and yes, there have been sightings of the TruSpeed, in-use, in CT, OH, and CA, already] - to publically blasting the LPP, once they've disavowed themselves of that product, and moved on to the LaserStar.
Yep, you got me,
Subie. You said that I missed a lot of things in the Blog.
Guess what, I re-read it yet one more time, and that's what caught my eye, this time.
In addition to all of the other inconsistencies, lies, and distortions of the truth that I've pointed out about their various Blog entries, I now have yet another piece of evidence.
Thanks for prompting me to go back, and to read in even more detail.
Care to explain away this one?
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Don't worry about explaining your responses as
Ford_Focus,
Subie, just follow the logic above, and tell me why, you think, that the LJT crew/
The Goons did what they did, regarding just this specific 100 PPS Ultralyte/LPP issue.
Explain the logic of their actions to me. To all of us.
You ask us not to trust the
GOL.
Fine.
But in this above scenario,
The Goons/LJT themselves take evidence directly from the
GOL to use against the LPP.
What are we to make of this.
And even if we discount that, we still cannot overlook the lies that
The Goons/LJT put forward in this very specific case. Lies which attack what they'd said, themselves, just months prior.
So,
Subie, how, given all these inconsistencies, can I have any trust, at all, in
The Goons/LJT ?
You can send your PM to me later,
Subie. Take your time composing it, I'd like to hear an accurate story.
Instead, respond to this post, first - publically, here.
I think *everyone* would want to see this one.