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Old 09-12-2008, 11:44 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Default Re: Escort Passport 9500ci or Laser Interceptor

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Like Blinder didn't upgrade to the J15, right? As "eventual" as it did seem to have taken them, and also although the situation wasn't handled to the complete satisfaction of many Binder proponents in the community, it's not like they didn't listen, and do something about the J11's issues?

And it's also like how LI didn't listen when we complained about the parking-beam of LPP/AL eliciting the "Unknown Gun" jamming algorithm, right? Nor like they didn't replace any and all of the first-run-US-units that failed (albeit this did take a while to happen). And it's not like LI isn't the first one to have proved to us to have access to the LI, and have updated their c-box for this hardware?

No support from either of these manufacturers, right?
When I was still off the boards I would scan read about problems with LI and Ivan not responding to people at all and basically Fucked over Elvis...

Now am I mistaken?

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- you answered neither of the questions that I asked, but instead, actually, you replied with comments on the politics between the GOL and The Goons:
That was me being lazy... You type alot...

Now I am just trying to set things straight with you... so what I said in the quote is how I feel about the GOL testing... and I will send you a PM about some info on the GOL test, and will explain why I do not trust the results in regards to the LS.

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And again, in this exchange:
This whole topic got way off track... and out of hand... and its partly my fault... My deal in that post was stating the power of GOL and the power they have to push things like the LI. So again... I will explain my questions in a PM...

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- to which crazyVOLVOrob then also expressed his sentiment in wanting to know why [b[Audi Quattro[/b] would try to run a "Group Buy" for the LPP here, and try to incite trouble here with the stateside LPP distributor and site sponsor/vendor LPP Rep/DMI-Sport, just before he went the way of the LaserStar?
Audi use to help Alex with sales back in the day... He stopped when him and chris did the LJTs website thats all I know. I do not know any specifics on what happened or why.

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...before The Goon's ban on the Laser Pro Park Forums ( BTW, care to explain, exactly, what happened, there? why Audi was trying to end-run around go.mouse with a supposed "Group Buy" of LPPs, here, at that time, to also incite trouble with the stateside-authorized LPP reseller and site sponsor Vendor, DMI-Sport? and also care to explain why Audi PM'ed me to try to sell me a LaserStar, even at that early time, while he was still involved on the LPP side? nothing funny going on there, right? )....
This is a point which cVR later reiterated in post #74 - and as a matter of fact, LEADS OFF said post, but yet, it is completely ignored?

Is this perhaps touching on "politics?"

Yes, I think so - but given the political discourses of your previous two replies, why the reluctance to comment on this issue?
I do not know why, I am not Audi... I also do not know why he PM'd you about the Laser Star... I honestly do not know about that. I can not really comment on it except that I do not know.

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Your follow-up post,, #81 in that thread, again was a discussion on the background politics and the characters at play. And while I do understand your reluctance to bring others into the fray, without their own presence here on these Forums - and I appreciate the honor with which you're doing so (albeit a slight trespass in post #83, but it can be said there that you were responding specifically to cVr, and that does excuse this small transgression) - it still, nevertheless, goes against the grain of what you said above, here, in this very post, in that you've answered the quantitative questions, and do not discuss "politics."
Like I said, the thread got out of hand... and I can tell you that yes I was being political... So I guess what I should have said above is ... I will try to answer your questions about the Laser Star directly the best I know... and I want to stay away from politics and bandwagons.

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You ask us in that post, post #81, to question "everything," yet, repeatedly, you assert that it is the GOL's results that we are to question, but not, somehow, the same of LJT.

And pretty much after page 10, your replies simply devolve into personal banter, telling-off various other members here, and to repeatedly say that you're not here to answer questions, but to, instead, "start debates" and to also pose more questions (posts #113 and 118).

No true answers were ever give to any of the questions that could have been answered in a straightforward manner (be it questions of the LaserStar, or questions of the various people concerned with the LaserStar or LJT, such as that very simple question of "why would Audi lie and use Ronin, his own friend's, known LPP/ZR3 video for LaserStar advertising purposes," to pervert the data and claims as-such?) - instead, most of the talk was about politics.
It went bad to worse... especially after CVRs personal attacks... I pretty much was just pissed.

I apologize for all that.

As far as questioning LJTs and why Ronins Video is on the website... I have no idea why that happened... I will say that its pretty much pointless to say question LJTs cause everyone already does... I do not have a problem with that... I just think people are missing the bigger problem... but I already have stated that and I really do not want to go that route again.


Hopefully this will answer some of those questions.
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