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Originally Posted by Subie_07

All the epoxy does is further protects the components internally if you have a weather sealing issue... its not 100% perfect, but if done correctly by the manufacture it can save the life of your jammer for quite some time!

Agreed - nothing is perfect over an indefinite and infinite period of time. Exposure will take its toll, no matter what, and the road-vehicle environment, particularly externally, is very harsh indeed.

Question remains, though - where is the epoxy seal you spoke of, is it between the external glare/shield lens and the main external casing, or simply the interior barrier?

Thats easy... 1 reason. $$$$$$$$$$
Its easy to save several bucks on manufacturing if you use cheaper quality sealant or just use korean style manufacturing... (meaning extreamly cheap... sometimes built buy hand) When you talking about headlights... thats a in house car manufactured part... they save money buy doing it in house... and they also would have hell to pay if they used cheap sealant ... ( Subaru's are some of the best cars period... so using them as an expample isnt fair... ) But really recalls would be made and that would cost them more money... now on a smaller scale is jammer companies... if the life expectancy is 2 years and you are only warranted for 1 year, thats called job security... and thats just the nature of business...

I can totally agree with that analysis (although I wouldn't go so far as to say that our Subarus are superior, "automotively" speaking - although I do share quite a bit of the Subaru pride of ownership, I know well that many of our parts are not "in house," and that much is actually sourced from OEM manufacturers, some of which may not be of top quality [look into the complaints generated by many of the "Subaru Performance Tuning" (SPT) parts, as well as continuing issues with the factory engine management, particularly in forced-induction vehicles, and yes, this includes even the current generation models]), I do not agree with the end conclusion.

I think that this is a simple engineering issue - and that with the proper eye towards how these units are constructed, not only could money be saved, but also the units guaranteed better weathersealing.

RE: location of epoxy sealant on LaserStar heads

Go back to what I said up top...

I did, but it still doesn't answer the question of where, exactly, the epoxy is used.

I was simply stating that the information you stated was wrong...
And people in Europe had the laser stars early product... but just like most new products had some QC issues... So they changed Manufactures...
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And let me just say this... You constantly take my words and compare them with things JTW said... on LJTs and say its double standards ... I am not an affiliate of them or Laser Star... So when you say double standards.... thats towards them... I do not represent them or laser star... So again... double standards ... no... I never questioned the manufacture of LI... I do not even know where its manufactured... as long as its not in Taiwan then I wouldn't have any real issues... The problem I have is the use of silicone... over the components... Which I explained my arguments with earlier.

So if you would stop taking my words and comparing them with JTWs and Audi's that would be great thanks...
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When I speak of The Goons, as you will see, I specifically use their name.

However, in the specific case above, what you have said parallels their exact line.

You're using the same double standards - you say above that the LaserStar started earlier in Europe ( and thank you, yet again, for correcting me on that ) - but so did LI, both in its current iteration, as well as in its former.

If we are to judge one by a certain set of criteria, we should do the same of the other(s).

Now I am not saying that dependability and durability are based off this number I just stated they have been around a lot longer then you stated. Obviously you would go off the current manufacture and the current hardware they were using... which in that sense the current manufacture has been making the current Laser Star for a little over a year...

^ But even by that standard, which you cited above as:

Originally Posted by Subie_07

the Laser Star was selling several months before the Review of LJTs... It had changed manufactures about 3 to 4 months prior to the review... so it was well into production at that point...

....that's still at least two months less than a full year, and, at-best, would place it on the same frame-of-reference as the first stateside LI units (which actually were SOLD stateside, and which, again, even though you said that the same manufacture of the LaserStar had been in-use overseas since that time, it wasn't until March of this past year that LJT/The Goons started pushing the LaserStar, actively, and the product actually reached stateside end-users in mass-retail format, and which, also, would bring up the LI being in-use in Europe and the Far East several months earlier).

Again, a fair and equal comparison should be made of *ALL* products.

If I left out information ask me then... do not give an argument for something that has not been said... leave those kinds of attacks for John McCain and Hussein Obama...

That is not fair to me... not that I really care... its just annoying... and I am less likely to respond ... cause sometimes I leave out information on purpose... and somethings I just assume you would know.

But as you can see above, there are definitely things which I do not know - the same with your incomplete info. on the fault of the Escort products.

This is why in a hobbyist community, we should share information and data truthfully and without reservations - so that we may help each other.

I also leave information out of things to protect other peoples reputation... Cause I really do not care about mine... its not like this board has any effect on my real reputation in life...

True, this Forum does not have any bearings on your "real life." Indeed, it's just a cyber existence. But still, it does bear on your standings in this specific hobbyist community, and I do think that, in and of itself, is worth protecting.

Thats not my problem... they should put themselves in a position to get information like I did... I am not really concerned with the "community" its all distorted and biased... and if someone goes against the God of all test on personal experience he or she is wrong... I talk about the laser star and so I am considered a "Goon" and I am neutral about LTJs and JTW and Audi... I am part of that group...

The Truth is as a person I am always apart of Minorities...

Politically, I am a Ron Paul supporter!
Religiously, I am apart of a Minority version of Christianity that takes away all the guilt that typical churches put on people...
I drive a Subaru...

I could go on... The problem is people do not check their information ... and I know I do not help when I will not share my information... but hey I found it... why can't everyone else... CAUSE THEY ARE LAZY! and they do not spend time actually putting themselves in a position to have contacts... or check out info for themselves...

I also am not going to tell people information that others are not ready to give out ... thats not how I am.

Again, that's all well and good, and I respect you for your convictions.

But it does bring to the forefront the question of: "if this person knows so much about LaserStar, but he's refusing to answer these questions/concerns, then doesn't that action - or lack thereof - imply that there's something to-hide, and that something is not right?"

Ah... well its hard to play catch up when you are still in business and you were one of the first jammers out...

Indeed.

With the resources that Escort has, it should do nothing but lead the class.

I've repeatedly lamented the fact that they don't seem to have devoted their full effort into the Shifter - and have repeatedly expressed my dis-satisfaction at this fact.

Again, in being fair to *all* parties, those issues should be said, of Escort.

Let me ask you a question... Have you actually read the information and blogs on LJTs? Their is a lot of interesting information on LJTs that is not talked about ... and I am not going to tell you but everything important about the Laser Star is on that website... and if you truly have you would be intrigued at some of the comments about the Laser Star... at least I would find them really interesting. Thats all I am saying...

Yes, actually, I have.

And also, just as honestly, after your prompting here, I went back, and re-read all of the entries, yet again.

There's honestly nothing there to be intrigued about.

And I've responded, more than once, on various Forums, about many of the inaccuracies and perversion of information that has taken place within some of those very Blog entries.

There's nothing there that presents any sort of mystery.